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Post by rose on Dec 14, 2013 7:37:31 GMT
Tvtropes defines the trope as And the trope names come from a common phrase associated with it. Tvtropes has pages for things like Wet Sari Scene and The Item Number. Also a lot of generally names one apply to films too, of course. But there's others, and there's special filmi centric names for general tropes, so let's list 'em (or think of some)! One I can think of is Cut to Switzerland - When a film cuts to it's leads frolicking in an natural environment, foreign to where the story is currently taking place. Always to song, normally with many (impractical) costume changes.
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Spook
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Post by Spook on Dec 26, 2013 22:44:46 GMT
Chocolate Hero - Unique combination of Estrogen Brigade Bait and The Hero, usually referring to newly minted Bollywood heroes. The title fades with age/experience.
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Post by rose on Dec 27, 2013 10:15:55 GMT
^I've heard that one! Cracks me up.
Something odadune posted counts as one I think:
South Indian Laws of Physics - the trademark way the southie action films disregard the laws of physics. Has resulted in many action scenes going viral.
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odadune
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Post by odadune on Dec 27, 2013 15:36:24 GMT
Rose: thank you! If you google "cartoon laws of physics" or "anime laws of physics" you'll see where I got the idea from.
Comedy Uncle: an actor who appears to be in his forties or fifties who is so inexplicably popular that he rates his own completely extraneous story arc. Usually applied to Tamil and Telugu comedians, but Hindi-language examples (Mehmood, Johnny Lever, Anupam Kher in commercial mode, etc).
Comedy Track: a story arc largely extraneous to the main body of the film, intended to showcase one or more popular comedians.
Shouty Comedy: Any comedy film that largely relies on people flailing their arms around and raising their voices. They are not always bad or poorly written (Manchali, Angoor) but see below.
Stupid Shouty Comedy: Any shouty comedy that made a negative impression on the person viewing and describing it.
Side Hero: euphemism for a supporting character as played by someone who either normally gets lead roles or thinks he should.
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Post by Xas on Dec 27, 2013 18:52:59 GMT
Somebody on the old board mentioned one about that special BW moment when a character makes some grand life-changing/affirming announcement, only to be immediately hit by a car, but I can't remember if that trope had a name. Actually, just being run-over is a pretty big thing in BW, whether you've made any grand pronouncement or not. Thinking about it now, I've noticed the penchant for being run-over also follows BW characters even when they're not in India. Hmm...
Does the whole 'whori-gori' thing count as a trope?
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Post by John3b on Dec 27, 2013 22:33:21 GMT
This seems to be similar to the old board thread 'Beyond "timepass"--we need new terms for Indian film fan situations'. There were a lot of good terms that members came up with that were very useful for BW fanatics - some have stuck with me for years now.
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Spook
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Post by Spook on Dec 28, 2013 2:24:52 GMT
We should add them to TVTropes.
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odadune
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Post by odadune on Dec 29, 2013 6:04:18 GMT
Spook: I am not an expert, but my understanding is that new tropes (as opposed to "works" or "creators" pages) have to go through this process: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/yk_activity.php?interval=1Xas: there's a trope called "Ignored Epiphany" where a character has a moment of clarity about what they're doing and then either rationalizes it away or dismisses it. Maybe what you're describing would be a "Roadkilled Epiphany"? I personally favor a more politically correct term for the goris, something along the lines of "Objectified Foreign Extra" Some other random ideas... 90s veteran: a male star who got his first lead roles between 1988 and 1993, and has been getting lead/co-lead level roles ever since. They tend to be more conventionally photogenic than the generation of stars that preceded them, and more forceful and intense than the actors who came to prominence in the 00s and 10s (perhaps due to having to compete for attention with the bizarre scripts, clothes, and song picturizations of the 90s). Rani, one of the youngest of the actresses who started in the 90s, and the only one to work continuously up to 2013, might also qualify. 90s diva: a female star who was extremely popular in the 90s, temporarily retired due to marriage or outside interests, and is now staging a comeback. Madhuri, Sridevi, and Juhi all qualify, arguably so does Karishma. Middle-aged Masala Dude: an actor over the age of forty who has starred in three or more films since 2010 which contain the following: action scenes based on the South Indian Laws of Physics, a revenge/vigilante justice storyline, a perfunctory romance arc, and lowbrow comedy (including but not limited to Shouty Comedy). Mostly used to distinguish Salman, Akshay, and Ajay from their contemporaries, who don't tend to make this kind of film. Can also be applied to the vast majority of Tamil/Telugu film stars over a certain age, but since there are so many of them and most of the young guys make similar movies, it's not as useful of a term. May-December romance: pairing an actor over the age of 60 with an actress under 40. Notable examples include Nishabd, Cheeni Kum, and Endhiran. May-November romance: pairing an actor over the age of 50 with an actress under 30. Most recent examples involve Sanjay Dutt or Telugu actors. May-October romance: pairing an actor over the age of 40 with an actress under 30. An unfortunately common side effect of the social pressures that force actresses out of lead roles by the time they reach their mid-thirties.
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Post by Prem Rogue on Jan 9, 2014 22:23:21 GMT
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Post by dancelover on Jan 9, 2014 22:56:40 GMT
This is a link to a website: Mr & Mrs 55. There are several worthwhile articles on it. One said that Madhubala died of a birth defect, a hole in the heart causing death by about age 30, that doctors were just learning to operate to correct at the time it killed her. I also recommend it. TY, Prem Rogue Dancelover
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Post by Prem Rogue on Jan 10, 2014 0:05:48 GMT
Yes, that site has a lot of really cool articles and translations. I wonder if the authors post here...
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Post by ranranbolly on Jan 13, 2014 17:38:55 GMT
Miracle Slap - When the heroine (usually westernized) is shown the error of her ways with the power of one simple slap to the face from the hero.
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Post by Ally Kumari on Jan 13, 2014 21:22:56 GMT
That Miracle Slap made me think of.....
"Rape for Greater good" - aka when a stuck-up heroine is on the verge of being raped for no other reason than just so hero can beat up the goons and then decide NOT TO rape the heroine himself thus proving he is actually the incarnation of every virtue possible and heroine should consider herself lucky that he had chosen to stalk her in the first place and immediatelly fall in love with him. Like this was the most popular way of getting the couple together in the 90s.
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