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Post by dancelover on Oct 29, 2016 18:07:50 GMT
AE DIL HAI MUSHKIL, directed by Karan Johar. Ranbir Kapoor, Anushka Sharma, Aiswarya Rai Bachchan. Upcoming Films Thread is at bollywhat.boards.net/thread/675/mushkil-karan Box Office India says ADHM opened with 40%+ occupancy, and earned 13+ crore for Friday. BOI expects Diwali to distract potential viewers over the weekend, so Monday will show if the film is a Hit. Dancelover |
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Post by MrB on Oct 31, 2016 12:53:15 GMT
ADHM had good and bad points for me. I'd recommend people go and see it but, for me, the bad outweighed the good.
First the good stuff. Performances are excellent all round; this is a (mostly) serious film, requiring high-quality acting, and it gets it. Ranbir does his thing as well as ever (more on this below); Anushka holds her own against him, and shows herself to be one of the best actors around; Aish is believable as a poet; and Fawad looks handsome, which is all he's asked to do. There are also some wonderful scenes: Lisa Haydon's hilarious and far too brief cameo as the gold-digging bimbo; SRK and Aish talking with the easy familiarity of ex-lovers while Ranbir writhes, and SRK gets the best speech of the film; and re-enacting classic songs with sari-clad heroines on freezing mountain tops.
But the great flaw for me is that ADHM suffers from what we might call the Imtiaz Ali Syndrome. Film with this affliction have a suffering and self-centred lead, played by Ranbir Kapoor, and lavish all their plot devices and other characters on making him feel sorry for himself and breaking his heart, so that he can go through enough pain to become a true artist. People fall in love, marry, fall out of love, separate, and even die, with the sole intention of making Ranbir miserable and teaching him about some aspect of love. Ranbir plays this ego monster very well, and the films obviously want me to sympathise with him; but I just want to give him, and often the other characters, a tight slap, and tell them to get on with life.
I just can't get over my dislike of Ranbir's character in this sort of movie. Perhaps that's a tribute to his acting, but it doesn't make me like the film. ADHM is interesting, but not a film I'm likely to watch again.
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Post by dancelover on Oct 31, 2016 15:21:47 GMT
Friday 13.04 Sat'ay 12.5 Sunday 8.75 Weekend total 34.74, which is what BOI expected, considering Diwali distractions. Monday's receipts will tell the India story. *** Monday 17.75 more or less, making about 52 crore in 4 days in India. This, again, is what BOI said they were expecting. *** ADHM also earned $6.25 million overseas, which is the 9th highest in BW history, and the only non-Khan film in the top ten. Ranbir's YJHD earned $4 million overseas. D AE DIL HAI MUSHKIL, directed by Karan Johar. Ranbir Kapoor, Anushka Sharma, Aiswarya Rai Bachchan. Upcoming Films Thread is at bollywhat.boards.net/thread/675/mushkil-karan Box Office India says ADHM opened with 40%+ occupancy, and earned 13+ crore for Friday. BOI expects Diwali to distract potential viewers over the weekend, so Monday will show if the film is a Hit. Dancelover |
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Post by MrB on Nov 1, 2016 11:33:23 GMT
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Post by dancelover on Nov 1, 2016 17:40:36 GMT
Surabhi Redkar, for Koimoi, gives ADHM 3.5 stars. So do 257 Koimoi voters. Redkar: "... a heartwarming tale of love and its complicated nature. ... looks magnificent, great actors, amazing music. ... all about accepting "I friend you" over "I love you." In another review, Scroll.in says ADHM is based on the "Indian cliche" that First Love is the only True Love, so it prevents any other love. Alizeh loves Ali, so she *cannot* return Ayan's love, no matter how compatible they are. Because Ayan has fallen in love for Alizeh, he in turn *cannot* return Sabah's love. But if Ali is able to return Alizeh's love, then at least one couple might be happy. Dancelover |
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Post by lydia on Nov 7, 2016 9:03:24 GMT
Towards the end this was heavy going - as in mind-numbing. For all their cheesiness or perhaps because of it - I prefer KKHH and K3G. I was far more engaged in the stories. Okay Johar is working with a different kind of audience yet not relinquishing his love of old -fashioned tropes. And up to a point he is successful ... however, where's the DIL? Like Mr. B I wasn't invested in the characters. Loved Lisa Haydon though - very funny.
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Post by emily on Nov 18, 2016 22:13:05 GMT
Listening to the soundtrack yet again (God, I love these songs) so I'll post my own "pros" and "cons" about the film below: Pros:
- So the music, am I right?! The title track captured my attention from the moment I heard it, and seeing it on the big screen was breathtaking. "Bulleya" is hard and sexy and a total earworm. "Channa Mereya," which never grew on me as a standalone track, is so sweet & poignant when you fit it into the big picture. "Breakup Song" is catchy, and even "Cutiepie," my least favorite track on the album, is admittedly a bit infectious. Great soundtrack--one of my favorites in Bollywood.
- Ranbir's character was a pro AND con for me. The pro is that everyone can relate to unrequited love, right? The scene with him collapsed outside Alizeh's apartment (right before the title track kicks in) and sobbing was a punch in the gut. I had to text the guy I'm semi-seeing just to make a small connection, because Ranbir's acting in that scene conveyed rejection and loneliness so utterly perfectly that it left me bawling. Cons to come...
- Chemistry. Ranbir & Anushka made very cute friends, which played very well into their "friends only" storyline. But geez--Aish & Ranbir! I'd pay someone a lot of money to get them into a film together again. They lit up the screen--seriously, was expecting the curtains to catch fire. Very few romantic pairings in Bollywood make me sweat and blush, but this one did. Seriously, too hot to handle. Also, Aish looked the best she ever has. I couldn't take my eyes off her; I was absolutely riveted.
- Little references to other Bollywood films! I caught most of them (am admittedly out of practice with these films). I make no secrets about my love of such references.
Cons:
- K-JO WENT FULL KATTI BATTI ON US. That's all I'll say about that twist. So mad, though it resolved a lot better than KB did.
- While sometimes I could sympathize with Ranbir's character, other times I wanted to smack him. Good God--trying to hook up with a dying chick, even though she's said no multiple times? No. Just stop. And who in the heck rejects an Aishwarya Rai who's obviously in love with you?! His behavior at times was so over the top and annoying; it almost spoiled my growing love for Ranbir.
- The scenes with Lisa Haydon could only be described as classic throwback '90s Bollywood humor--weird, quirky, over-the-top...just quintessentially Bollywood of yesteryear. I know it's some people's cup of tea, but not mine; I could have done without the quasi-slapstick and crying sequences.
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Post by dancelover on Nov 19, 2016 0:14:09 GMT
reply at bottom - D - Aish & Ranbir! I'd pay someone a lot of money to get them into a film together again.
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Emily, you can do that very easily. Just buy many tickets to that movie, for yourself and for other people!  Dancelover  |
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Post by moviemavengal on Nov 28, 2016 17:32:47 GMT
Listening to the soundtrack yet again (God, I love these songs) so I'll post my own "pros" and "cons" about the film below: Pros:
- So the music, am I right?! The title track captured my attention from the moment I heard it, and seeing it on the big screen was breathtaking. "Bulleya" is hard and sexy and a total earworm. "Channa Mereya," which never grew on me as a standalone track, is so sweet & poignant when you fit it into the big picture. "Breakup Song" is catchy, and even "Cutiepie," my least favorite track on the album, is admittedly a bit infectious. Great soundtrack--one of my favorites in Bollywood.
- Ranbir's character was a pro AND con for me. The pro is that everyone can relate to unrequited love, right? The scene with him collapsed outside Alizeh's apartment (right before the title track kicks in) and sobbing was a punch in the gut. I had to text the guy I'm semi-seeing just to make a small connection, because Ranbir's acting in that scene conveyed rejection and loneliness so utterly perfectly that it left me bawling. Cons to come...
- Chemistry. Ranbir & Anushka made very cute friends, which played very well into their "friends only" storyline. But geez--Aish & Ranbir! I'd pay someone a lot of money to get them into a film together again. They lit up the screen--seriously, was expecting the curtains to catch fire. Very few romantic pairings in Bollywood make me sweat and blush, but this one did. Seriously, too hot to handle. Also, Aish looked the best she ever has. I couldn't take my eyes off her; I was absolutely riveted.
- Little references to other Bollywood films! I caught most of them (am admittedly out of practice with these films). I make no secrets about my love of such references.
Cons:
- K-JO WENT FULL KATTI BATTI ON US. That's all I'll say about that twist. So mad, though it resolved a lot better than KB did.
- While sometimes I could sympathize with Ranbir's character, other times I wanted to smack him. Good God--trying to hook up with a dying chick, even though she's said no multiple times? No. Just stop. And who in the heck rejects an Aishwarya Rai who's obviously in love with you?! His behavior at times was so over the top and annoying; it almost spoiled my growing love for Ranbir.
- The scenes with Lisa Haydon could only be described as classic throwback '90s Bollywood humor--weird, quirky, over-the-top...just quintessentially Bollywood of yesteryear. I know it's some people's cup of tea, but not mine; I could have done without the quasi-slapstick and crying sequences.
Full Katti Batti!!! So, SO true! I just groaned in the theater when I realized he was going that direction. I'm not sure how else he could have ended it keeping it unrequited love, but ugh. Totally agree with you about the soundtrack, too. That title track just mesmerized me from the first time I saw it, and Ranbir did such a fantastic job with it in the film, too. |
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Post by emily on Nov 29, 2016 3:18:58 GMT
^ Yuuup. TBF, as I said, it resolved better than KB did by {spoilers here}
in the end, resolving Ayan and Alizeh's relationship into one of friendship only, rather than KB's mushing Imran & Kangna into love. |
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Post by dancelover on Nov 29, 2016 16:30:17 GMT
Yesterday I posted this ADHM comment in the Dear Zindagi thread. OOPS!
Internet Movie Database (IMDb.com) has 135 reviews (of Ae Dil Hai Mushkil) on its ADHM review section, 14 pages.
I read two of those pages: Page One on which all the reviewers more or less despise ADHM, but they all despise it.
Then I read Page (lucky) 7, on which four of the first five reviews like it very well indeed!
Conclusion: those unfortunates whose love has always been unrequited (like KJ) will love ADHM,
but those whose love has ever been returned will see no point to it.
Note that Karan Johar has stated that he has never been able to find True Love.
Dancelover
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Post by emily on Dec 23, 2016 8:23:23 GMT
Yesterday I posted this ADHM comment in the Dear Zindagi thread. OOPS! Internet Movie Database (IMDb.com) has 135 reviews (of Ae Dil Hai Mushkil) on its ADHM review section, 14 pages. I read two of those pages: Page One on which all the reviewers more or less despise ADHM, but they all despise it. Then I read Page (lucky) 7, on which four of the first five reviews like it very well indeed! Conclusion: those unfortunates whose love has always been unrequited (like KJ) will love ADHM, but those whose love has ever been returned will see no point to it. Note that Karan Johar has stated that he has never been able to find True Love. Dancelover The last line of this post spurred me to write something, a comparison, if you will. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai was all about friendship turning into love. Ae Dil Hai Mushkil is about friendship AS love. To me, ADHM is a mature look at KKHH. Karan must have evolved and learned between now and 1998 that sometimes friendship never evolves into romantic love, but a love on its own, a friendship love. So to me, again, ADHM is a more mature look at KKHH, in which Tina never died, Anjali continued to pursue Raj's love, and Raj wanted it to remain strictly a friendship. Karan has matured, but the way he's written Ranbir's dejected, cry-baby character signifies bitterness toward his absence of true love in life. I don't know any of the people involved in the above post, so relinquishing any knowledge there. But it's an interesting perspective--ADHM is a more mature, seasoned perspective on KKHH's "Love is friendship" narrative. |
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