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Post by dancelover on Jul 17, 2015 18:27:39 GMT
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Post by dancelover on Jul 17, 2015 18:47:13 GMT
Me, I wonder: If a Pakistani mother takes her mute daughter to a dargah in Delhi, and they get separated from each other, then what does the *mother* do about searching for her daughter? Call the Delhi police first, of course; does she then notify the TV and radio news programs? We'd do that in America.
Who plays the Mother, anyway? The Movietalkies review doesn't say.
It is first the guardian's responsibility to search for a missing child, we believe. Everyone else is merely helping her.
How does BB deal with the Mother's search, and with the rest of the family back in Pakistan? Is the girl old enough to read and write? Whatever alphabet and language she uses, there is someone in Delhi who can read it!
Dancelover
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Post by moviemavengal on Jul 17, 2015 19:20:02 GMT
danceloverI just saw the movie and can answer all your questions, if you want it spoiled. I didn't LOVE the movie, but Salman is about the sweetest he's ever been in it, and the little girl steals the entire show. The movie has some very cute moments, but it is slooooooow as molasses for me, especially in the middle section. The mother and daughter are not separated in Delhi itself. The separation has to do with trains and the border.
The girl is only 6 and cannot read or write. The key thing is that she is mute. The mother had taken her to a special mosque in Dehli to pray for her to speak.
The mother is from a rural village and wouldn't think of using the internet to search for her child. Salman has to learn about her by getting clues like her clapping for Pakistan when she sees a cricket match on TV. More traditional routes are tried by everyone, but they are not listened to turn after turn, and Salman can't bring himself to just drop her off at an orphanage.
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Post by dancelover on Jul 17, 2015 19:54:29 GMT
Thank you very much. This leads to another question: How did Mother find out about that temple in Delhi? And others: How did she learn how to get to Delhi? Did her husband, or a grandfather or grandmother, get involved at any time? Dancelover danceloverI just saw the movie and can answer all your questions, if you want it spoiled. I didn't LOVE the movie, but Salman is about the sweetest he's ever been in it, and the little girl steals the entire show. The movie has some very cute moments, but it is slooooooow as molasses for me, especially in the middle section. The mother and daughter are not separated in Delhi itself. The separation has to do with trains and the border.
The girl is only 6 and cannot read or write. The key thing is that she is mute. The mother had taken her to a special mosque in Dehli to pray for her to speak.
The mother is from a rural village and wouldn't think of using the internet to search for her child. Salman has to learn about her by getting clues like her clapping for Pakistan when she sees a cricket match on TV. More traditional routes are tried by everyone, but they are not listened to turn after turn, and Salman can't bring himself to just drop her off at an orphanage.
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Post by moviemavengal on Jul 17, 2015 20:08:39 GMT
Thank you very much. This leads to another question: How did Mother find out about that temple in Delhi? And others: How did she learn how to get to Delhi? Did her husband, or a grandfather or grandmother, get involved at any time? Dancelover danceloverI just saw the movie and can answer all your questions, if you want it spoiled. I didn't LOVE the movie, but Salman is about the sweetest he's ever been in it, and the little girl steals the entire show. The movie has some very cute moments, but it is slooooooow as molasses for me, especially in the middle section. The mother and daughter are not separated in Delhi itself. The separation has to do with trains and the border.
The girl is only 6 and cannot read or write. The key thing is that she is mute. The mother had taken her to a special mosque in Dehli to pray for her to speak.
The mother is from a rural village and wouldn't think of using the internet to search for her child. Salman has to learn about her by getting clues like her clapping for Pakistan when she sees a cricket match on TV. More traditional routes are tried by everyone, but they are not listened to turn after turn, and Salman can't bring himself to just drop her off at an orphanage. Yes, a grandfather suggests the shrine in Dehli as it helped him when he had a similar issue as a child. The father cannot get a visa to India as he had served in the military. Therefore the mother is determined to go to try anything to heal her child.
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Post by ShantiSal on Jul 18, 2015 8:04:40 GMT
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Post by odadune on Jul 18, 2015 21:12:07 GMT
Just pulling emily's one-line review over here: Bajrangi Bhaijaan. Entered with low expectations, left with big fat tears rolling down my cheeks. That little girl is SO precious.
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Post by emily on Jul 19, 2015 0:14:56 GMT
Yesterday was a comedy of errors, but I did finally get to the theater to see this film, yes I did. Here's how it went.
I get out of class at 2:50 and make the eight minute trek or so to the parking lot to get in my car and zoom off to the 3:15 showing of Bajrangi Bhaijaan. I don't mind if I'm a wee bit late, just so long as I get there for the film. I get in my car and notice that the parking lot aisles are completely blocked with cars. Lekin kyun?! Apparently there was some sort of childrens' science fair at the university, and these are parents waiting to pick their children up. (Smarter option would be to wait in the parking spots...but I digress!) Add to the fact that it's 100 degrees out and I'm running low on fuel and Emily is not a happy camper. I end up getting out of the lot at 3:20, which obviously means I'm not going to get to see this 3:15 showing.
I check listings and it turns out it's showing at 6:15 at the same theater. Theek hai, theek hai. At first I thought I would kill time by seeing Ant-Man, because I love Paul Rudd, but I'd have to leave and miss the last 30 minutes in order to go see BB, so I decided to just fuss around at the mall and bookstore. Read books, ate some Chinese, killed time. Got to the theater at 5:50 and asked for tickets for the 6:15 showing. The girl, staring bemusedly, asked, "You mean the 6:45?"
Turns out, in my black rage, I had misread 6:45 as 6:15. Ok, crap. So I was like 55 minutes late. Bought some popcorn and sat and ate it on a bench and watched as the theatergoers started to arrive. Sat in an aisle seat and watched previews. Brothers, Katti Batti, Bangistan. Of the three, I'm most looking forward to KB. I was hoping to see the Bajirao Mastani teaser on the big screen, but to no avail.
Now, here's how Kabir Khan made my mildly crappy afternoon/evening into a beautiful night at the movies.
I knew it was going to be good from the get-go because it showed us beautiful scenes of Kashmir first. Guys, I love films set in Kashmir--this is no secret. Ok, my fingers are typing this all very eagerly and if I let them get away, I will write the entire synopsis here. I'm not going to do that. Here are my condensed thoughts:
Acting: It's Sallu's film: he's bringing in the big crowds and the crores and whatnot. He's a superstar, after all. I thought it was a very nice performance on his part. I'm very lukewarm on him--like him in some films, dislike him in others--and very much liked him here. He was very sweet, delightfully naive, and truthful. The real acting hero of the film, however, was Nawazuddin Siddiqui, who doesn't even turn up until the second half. As usual, he emotes perfectly with just a look or a gesture, and steals the show. I'm gonna say it again--Nawaz is the most talented actor in India, IMO. Kareena did very well in a limited role, and she and Salman have great chemistry in the little scenes they have alone together. And LET'S TALK ABOUT that little girl: she is PRECIOUS. Her little eye movements and gestures remind me of the Olsen twins on Full House, and every time she started crying, I started crying. I'm not even kidding. Strong supporting performances, most notably a guest appearance by Om Puri. Good cast.
Music: I actually really liked the music. My favorite is the qawwali sang near the end; I also like the "Zindagi" song and the cute chicken song as well. I'm not a huge fan, musically, of the "Selfie Le Le Re" number but the picturization was very energetic and looked great on the big screen. Also, too much auto-tune. But that's like every Hindi film these days.
Plot: A wee bit slow at times, and the gratuitous slow-mo at the end was a bit much, but it mostly came together well and kept you invested in the quest to return this little girl home to Pakistan. I like how there's no clear villain--India or Paikistan--just the message that the two nations need to come together in love to help this quest.
Honestly, I went in with pretty low expectations, and it was nice to have them very well exceeded. I drove home still wiping tears from my eyes thinking about the movie. It was incredibly sweet and poignant.
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Post by piku on Jul 19, 2015 0:25:22 GMT
Nice reviews, cant wait to see BB
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Post by MrB on Jul 19, 2015 19:34:12 GMT
This was an excellent afternoon out. Salman's recent run of muscle-man movie has been getting old, and Bajrangi Bhaijaan is a canny move to a softer character. The film could easily have been a sloppy goo-fest of mawkish sentimentality, but it comes with lightness of touch, complete sincerity of execution, inclusive humanity, and very good central performances by Salman, Nawazuddin, Kareena, and crucially Harshaali Malhotra, that make it a real pleasure to watch, and left not a dry eye in the house. It's long, but I relished the time taken to tell the story, and it didn't drag until the extended slow-mo at the very end. If you are in the mood for well-crafted drama that is heart-warming without giving heartburn, this is just the thing.
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Post by dancelover on Jul 20, 2015 17:11:37 GMT
I find **this** weird, that India won't let a Pak veteran visit. Do they fear he would spy? But one can spy without ever having served in any military! Dancelover, thanking movie maven gal for all of her answers Thank you very much. This leads to another question: How did Mother find out about that temple in Delhi? And others: How did she learn how to get to Delhi? Did her husband, or a grandfather or grandmother, get involved at any time? Dancelover Yes, a grandfather suggests the shrine in Dehli as it helped him when he had a similar issue as a child. **The father cannot get a visa to India as he had served in the military.** Therefore the mother is determined to go to try anything to heal her child.
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Post by dancelover on Jul 20, 2015 17:32:09 GMT
The review is on Youtube, spoken not written. Fortunately there are subtitles. Unfortunately they are poorly translated, often incoherently. This review attracted many comments. Most of them blame A Chopra for not reviewing Bahubali first! Dancelover does not like this.
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Post by odadune on Jul 23, 2015 11:27:54 GMT
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Post by MrB on Jul 23, 2015 14:50:13 GMT
Both of these capture Bajrangi Bhaijaan very well. This is a cynical, post-modern time, where we expect films to be full of knowing winks to the audience and to be very aware of the fact that they are films. It's unusual and pleasurable to be presented with a film that is not like that, and just tells a story in a warm open-hearted way. I was just as surprised as the critics that I was unable to be cynical about it, or worry too much about the possible attempt to associate Salman Khan with Pawan's saintliness. It's a film that makes you enjoy it simply for itself.
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Post by emily on Jul 23, 2015 16:46:51 GMT
Agreed with all above. There was just one point where my cynicism bled through--a thought of, "This feel-good character couldn't be coming at a more appropriate time for Salman right now--but that dissolved early and I gave into the emotional manipulation. Sometimes, it's just best to give in and go along for the ride.
Hell, I'm thinking about going to see it again...I never expected to have that desire going in the first time!
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